Topic: TIP: Filament wont feed or eject, stuck filament, can't eject, not printing.

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  • #31678

    Pete @pete
    I have both RoboxDual and other Robox versions
    CEL HQ Bristol UK

    If you get stuck filament and the Eject Stuck Filament button still does not allow an eject please read the page linked below and follow the directions carefully. There are several parts which may be damaged by pulling on stuck filament.

    You will need to log in to see some content on the support portal below.

    https://robox.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/1000155185

    If you need help please create a support ticket.


    For official support please visit www.cel-robox.com/support/ and create a ticket

    #34540

    Andy @originalcaruso
    I have several commercial Robox units
    Belton, North Lincolnshire, UK

    Thanks for posting the above tip, helped me fix my problem

    I set a print running but failed to notice the wasn’t enough filament to complete the job. I attempted to eject the filament and suspect the end of the reel had passed the motor, leaving a section of filament between the extruder and head

    A purge seemed to clear the head but - no surprises - wouldn’t eject the filament

    Removing the head proved the filament wasn’t stuck inside the head, removing the bowden connector allowed the filament to be pulled back

    Pushing the eject button allowed the filament to move slightly, and a gentle pull finally removed the filament

    Replacing the head and bowden connector the reloading all seems fine

    Now to try another print

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    #35777

    Enginwiz @enginwiz
    My Robox is a Blue Commercial Version
    Germany

    Today I my Robox Dual failed to eject Robox chroma green ABS filament.

    In Automaker I noticed that the nozzles are only heated to 140 degrees Celsius during the eject routine and this is certainly not hot enough for ABS.

    The Robox is still printing happily with the croma green Robox ABS, but it won’t eject the filament.

    How can I set the nozzle temperature for the left and right nozzle to 230 degrees Celsius during the eject routine?

    #35779

    BHudson @bhudson
    I have both RoboxDual and other Robox versions
    Arizona, USA

    @enginwiz 140 C is certainly hot enough to eject ABS. I do it all the time. However, I have found that if ABS is running on the lower extruder, the outside reel, the curve of the Bowden tube will reduce the ejection force enough for the eject to fail sometimes. In this case, I suggest using the “Remove Head” button in AutoMaker as this will move the head to the right before ejecting and that will make it easier for the extruder to pull the filament out.

    If you have a failure to eject the filament, you should be presented with the “Eject stuck filament” option which will automatically do what you are asking. It does attempt to eject from the left side, though, so it may run into the same issue.

    If that also fails, please open a support ticket so that a support engineer can assist you to determine if there is a problem that needs to be solved.

    I operate two Betas and four Production Robox.
    I am the US/Canada Technical Support engineer for the Robox.
    www.hudsondesignlabs.com

    #35883

    Enginwiz @enginwiz
    My Robox is a Blue Commercial Version
    Germany

    Thank you for your assistance. Your guess was spot on - the ABS was in the left nozzle.

    The Robox had ABS loaded on reel 2 and neither the eject filament button nor the “Eject stuck filament” routine were able to unload the Croma green Robox ABS filament. However it was still printing well with the still loaded ABS.

    I placed a large print on the right side of the printbed and while it printed the second layer I pushed the eject button on the printer to change filament. The print head stayed on the right side and unloading the ABS filament worked over there. Nevertheless it was a scary experience.

    Now I am printing Colorfabb Ngen. Loading and unloading is not a problem with Ngen PETG.

    Please consider moving the print head to the right side of the x-axis for the standard unload filament routine. I would also like to suggest to increase the nozzle temperature for unloading filaments. On my Replicator 2 I need at least 200 degrees Celsius to unload ABS filaments. Otherwise I have to rip the filament out of the hotend with brute force.

    The freshdesk support article Pete mentioned in his posting is for the single material head. It should be updated for the new dual material head with the additional gcode commands to heat heat up the left or right nozzle.

    #38626

    paulsroom @paulsroom
    My Robox is a Blue Commercial Version
    Chichester, UK

    Well I have just upgraded to Automaker version 3.0.0 and everything was going swimmingly, but now it’s all stopped. I was using ColorFabb nGen without any problems, performing a purge for each colour change. Then today I wanted one part in a colour that is currently not available in ColorFabb nGen but is in MGChemicals PLA. I’ve used this make before without any problems using the standard PLA settings.

    I can load and eject the filament okay - I’ve gone back to loading ColorFabb nGen - but I can’t perform a purge. The printer goes through the routine of trying to print the sequence of lines, but the filament doesn’t feed through. I can see it trying to feed by the reel moving slightly but then jumping back. No filament is getting through.

    The eject stuck filament is greyed out, so I can’t use that and the box of information normally shown on the left side of the screen in Automaker has disappeared. I’m not sure why this is but clearly the filament must be stuck or the feed totally slipping. I’ve read the support sheet and I am wondering how much dismantling I have to do in investigating the problem. I’m assuming that this is a totally mechanical problem and nothing to do with software.

    #38629

    BHudson @bhudson
    I have both RoboxDual and other Robox versions
    Arizona, USA

    @paulsroom Why would you use “Eject stuck filament”? That is only used in the event that your printer fails to pull the material out of the print head. It has no other use.

    Please open a support ticket so that you can get the proper instruction to sort your issue.

    I operate two Betas and four Production Robox.
    I am the US/Canada Technical Support engineer for the Robox.
    www.hudsondesignlabs.com

    #38650

    Pete @pete
    I have both RoboxDual and other Robox versions
    CEL HQ Bristol UK

    With all feed problems it is best to first eject the filament and inspect the end, it should have melted a bit. Clip any deformed sections off and load it again. Try heating the head but don’t allow the print to start.

    Eject again and inspect again, if it has not melted at all then it is not reaching the melt chamber in the head.

    Usually this type of block is a string of material which is inside the tube where it enters the head. Power off and remove the head. Try to remove anything in the feed tubes and in the rear of the head. Do not poke anything inside the head except filament as the inlet tubes are curved and can be damaged easily.

    Use the manual purge instructions in the link at the top of this page.


    For official support please visit www.cel-robox.com/support/ and create a ticket

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